Ferdinand Engelbeen – Another Zeta 5th Columnist

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R. J. L.
By Joe Postma – Climate of Sophistry

The saga with the CLINTEL group continues. One problem I faced with them is that, other than Nikolov and Zeller, none on the team seemed to be familiar with thermodynamics and mathematical physics. Of course, that makes for perfect feeding grounds for the noetic parasite which feeds off of cognitive dissonance and lives purely in the realm of Gödel-incomplete word salads in place of actual mathematical equations correspondent with physics.

One of the major thorns in the group is a character named Ferdinand Engelbeen who from the beginning has done nothing but gatekeep, corral, and funnel the discussion away from clarity on the issue of the non-existence of the climate alarmist greenhouse effect. We’ve seen this type many times before, particularly in the other members of the CLINTEL group such as Christopher Monckton. Of course, we now know that these people, who refuse to acknowledge the most trivial facts of mathematics and empiricism, are Zeta parasites defending the existence of their feeding grounds, ultimately with a goal of eradicating all life on Earth. This radiative greenhouse effect psy-op seems to be the most important thing for them, and they must defend it at all costs, even if in the short-term it means that they have to concede that it won’t have a big effect on the climate: they absolutely must maintain that it exists, rather than concede the truth that it doesn’t. And of course, that was the final message of the CLINTEL group – that the radiative greenhouse effect exists (it doesn’t, though), and that it just won’t have a big effect. Telling.

When we’re at a point in debate where all an opponent is required to do is to acknowledge that there is a difference between flat Earth vs. round Earth, between cold and hot, and that this difference has scientific and mathematical relevance, when the opponent gaslights you and claims that there is no difference and that it is not even a sensible question to ask (see: Planet Wars for such responses in scientific peer-review!), and when you see them inexplicably coordinated in such maneuvers of sophistry, then you are necessitated to perform a meta-analysis with the comprehension that the debate revolves around something else entirely above its ostensible innocent scientific nature.

Such an analysis reveals that planet Earth is infested with a noetic parasite which feeds off of cognitive dissonance and off of the destruction of human mentation in general, and which has a goal of eradicating all life on Earth, and the pseudoscientific non-existent “radiative greenhouse effect” is central to that parasite’s operation. By “feeds off of cognitive dissonance and off of the destruction of human mentation in general,” I mean that it is destroying human consciousness, that it is destroying the human ability to think, that it is making humanity self-destructively stupid. Look around.

In any case, what follows is just a bit of discussion of thermodynamics, which, interestingly enough, seems to have shut-up Ferdinand from continuing to respond with sophistical takes on the radiative greenhouse effect and thermodynamic principles. The backstory to what follows is my having had the usual argument with a climate-alarmist greenhouse effect defender (Ferdinand) about the First Law of Thermodynamics and how heat is what is required to increase temperature:

FE: “I was writing about radiation energy. If that results in heat (warming, or less cooling) depends of the sum of all radiation energy inputs and outputs.”

So of course, Ferdinand uses the sophistry of referring to energy, and makes the assumption that all energy must increase temperature, and he ignores what I had just explained about heat, not merely energy, but heat, being required for temperature increase.

Ferdinand’s supposition is incorrect. That is not how thermodynamics or the heat equations work. The heat equations for radiation (and any other mode of heat) show that it (heat, what is required to increase temperature) is what occurs between two bodies only. Therefore, the correct way to calculate heat when you have multiple objects is not to sum the radiation from all other objects onto one, but, to sum the individual heat from each other object onto the one. The reason is because heat is work, and work is something that one body performs on another.

If thermodynamics worked as Ferdinand and the climate alarmist greenhouse effect are postulating, then, we could add many ice-cubes together to keep getting higher and higher temperature. Alas, in reality you only get ice-cube temperature, and that’s it.

Ferdinand, and the climate alarmist greenhouse effect (which he defends, thus defending alarmism and all of its policies), postulate “the sum of all radiation energy inputs and outputs” being what results in heating. We can understand that this is incorrect with a simple example:

One ice-cube at -18C (255K) emits 240 W/m^2. Now, let’s have two ice-cubes, producing a sum of radiation of now 480 W/m^2, according to the logic of Ferdinand and the RGHE. Thus, do two ice-cubes give us 30C (303K from 480 W/m^2 via the Stefan-Boltzmann Law). Can we keep adding N ice-cubes to get N * 240 W/m^2?

Nope, that is not how thermodynamics or heat flow works.

Instead, if you have one object at Thot = 30C, then you calculate the heat between it and ice-cube n = 1, between it and ice-cube n = 2, between it and ice-cube n = 3, etc., using heat Qn = sigma*(Thot^4 – T_icecube_n^4) = sigma*(303^4 – 255^4)

In each and every case, the heat flow is only from the hot object at 30C, to each and every ice-cube which it is heating up. Adding more and more ice-cubes will never result in the ice-cube warming up the hotter object.

In other words, Ferdinand, and the climate alarmist fake-greenhouse effect which he supports, postulate that you can keep adding ice-cubes together to make higher and higher temperature. The question to ask would be: how many ice-cubes does it take to re-heat your cold cup of coffee?

Of course the answer is that temperature do not add, and hence fluxes do not add, and you can not simply add up radiation this way with regards to determining potential temperature changes. You have to add up heat from each other object, onto one object, by taking the difference of their energies, and this is a very different thing than simply adding up energy.

If we simply add up energy, then adding up ice-cubes will lead to higher and higher temperature. However, if we add up heat, which is the result of the difference of energy, then adding up ice-cubes will only ever get you ice-cube temperature. That’s neat, and important, how that works!

FE: “Thus my questions to you are:

1. Does the earth’s surface absorb radiant energy from CO2 in the atmosphere or not.

2. Do the back radiation measurements show around 300 W/m2 of downwelling radiant energy

3. And is that absorbed by the earth’s surface or not.”

So you can see how, now with his re-jigging of how heat and temperature increase works, he can pretend to force you into rhetorical questions to which he’s attempted to design the answers for. The answers he seeks are of course all “yes”.

However, the answers are 1: NO, 2: YES, and 3: NO.

Just because you can measure radiant energy from an ice-cube, does not mean that that energy can warm a hotter body. It is as simple as that, and that is what determines the correct answers above.

Here’s the basic thought experiment: envision a universe with nothing it, and obviously, no temperature since temperature can only exist in matter and space has no temperature. Now add a hot object at 30C. Great, it’s emitting thermal radiant energy to space. Now add an ice-cube at -18C a few meters away from the hot body, which of course also emits in all directions. Where before there was only empty space and the hot body only “saw” empty space around it, now there’s an ice-cube in the field of view. Is that ice-cube at -18C going to heat the warm body at 30C? There’s new radiation present – that from the ice-cube; will it warm the hotter body now? Well why would it? Use the heat equation. The heat equation shows that the hot body just warms the ice-cube. That’s it. Why would the cold body warm the hot body? There’s literally no thermodynamic equations or theory which would show that. It should be trivial to show, since there’s only 2 bodies…but there are no such trivial equations to show the result which Ferdinand and the alarmist greenhouse effect postulate. The only equations which do exist for thermodynamics and in this scenario say that the hot body warms the cooler…and that’s it.

So there you have it. Your climate alarmist greenhouse postulate simply has no basis in reason, math, physics, and thermodynamics. It can only be created with word-games.

One last comment from Ferdinand was:

FE: “That has nothing to do with real greenhouses, which work with a different principle, but with the radiation energy balance: all energy of whatever source must be conserved.”

This is very clever, subtle, expert-class cognitive dissonance sophistry, and simple lying. The point about real greenhouses is that they contain all of the conditions necessary to demonstrate the action of the radiative greenhouse effect, but they do not, which is an experimental debunking of that postulate which goes along with the debunking in theory.  The add-on is that real greenhouses get warm because of convective-stoppage, not from a radiative effect. To get around and hide this fact from exposure which is an empirical debunk of the climate alarmist greenhouse effect, Ferdinand dissimulates and pretends that real greenhouses do not apply because they work with a different principle. You see what he did there? The fact that real greenhouses work with a difference principle than the climate alarmist radiative greenhouse effect is itself the proof that the RGHE does not exist! So to funnel away from this fact, the Zeta parasite Ferdinand (and I’ve seen this routine from others) pretends that the experimental scenario which debunks the effect does not apply…because it debunks the effect!

Hilarity. These parasites are incredibly clever with their word games, but once you see how they do it, it becomes so obvious.

Ref.: https://climateofsophistry.com/2023/01/31/ferdinand-engelbeen-another-zeta-5th-columnist/

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