It was 1972 and John Gacy had a problem. He had to meet his wife to attend a wake, but he had a young man’s body in his spare bedroom.
“Right in front of the closet, that opens into the trap into the basement,” Gacy tells his lawyers, Sam Amirante and Bob Motta, on never-before-played tapes. “I opened up the trap, and I just threw him down there.”
That trap door to the Gacy crawl space would become the final destination of the bodies of dozens of young men and boys. All told, the killer would be convicted of the murders of 33 people.
But Gacy had another problem. Before he stabbed that victim, he said he got cut in the process. Now he had to explain the injury to his wife.
“I said I cut it with a carpet cutter,” he said. “And when we got to the wake my sister looked at it and said I should go to the hospital.”
That conversation, and many more, are revealed in a collection of tapes documenting the trial preparation by Gacy, Amirante and Motta.
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Motta gave the tapes to his son, Bob, on his 21st birthday. Now, the younger Motta, also a Chicago attorney, is turning them into a podcast, which paints a chilling picture of the killer and his attempts to manipulate even his own attorneys.
“It’s approximately 15-and-a-half hours of unedited, just completely graphic audio of Gacy,” Bob Motta said. “He’s had two-and-a-half months [since his arrest] to think about what to do about forming some kind of theory for defense in his own mind.”
Bob Motta said that after first admitting everything to Amirante in December, Gacy begins to waffle, suggesting he doesn’t remember most of the killings, that they may have been committed by others, or his own alter ego, “Jack Hanley.”
“He was absolutely a sociopath,” Bob Motta said. “And his inability to have any kind of empathy was chilling.”
That fact is vividly illustrated in a conversation between Gacy and the elder Motta, where the killer expresses little remorse for his crimes.
“Did you ever have the feeling that God wouldn’t care if these people were dead because they were prostitutes or having sex for money?” Motta asks.
“No, but you want to know something, I can recall that more than once I wanted to pray,” Gacy replies. “Not pray for me, but pray for them, for being such a lost soul, for being so stupid.”
On that tape, the killer suggests the victims were to blame for their own deaths.
“Yes, there’s not one of them that didn’t die … that I’m aware of … that didn’t die through their own hand or their own wrongdoing,” Gacy says. “If you want to say I tempted them, put them into temptation — yes. Because understand this, everybody that ever came to my house, there was never a struggle and nobody was ever forced into my house.”
He adds, “Everybody came to my house willingly, understandably and knowing what’s going to happen.”
Source: Secret Gacy Tapes — https://www.nbcchicago.com/top-videos-home/secret-john-wayne-gacy-tapes-released/2498962/
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